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Author:  Andy Zimmerman [ Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:18 am ]
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The beginner again
For bolt on necks, what hardware do you use?
Where do you buy it?
LMI has a set the uses an insert in the neck. The bolt doesnt thread directly
into the neck. Is this strong enough.

Thanks again

Andy

Author:  L. Presnall [ Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:21 am ]
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Andy,

LMI's are great, but expensive...I used regular hardware store ones with a 1/4" cap screw, until John Mayes gave me one of his...they too come from the harware store...when I get back home, I'll post a picture of one for you.


Author:  John How [ Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:21 am ]
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A lot of people use threaded inserts and I have too but I switched to barrel nuts (aka cross dowels) and bolts on the last 10 or so.

Author:  Andy Zimmerman [ Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:28 am ]
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To me a cross dowel and a barrel nut are two different items.
Could you show me a picture of what you use??
Andy

Author:  johno [ Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:53 am ]
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Check this out

Cumpiano's Alternate Neck Joint

Author:  tippie53 [ Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:07 am ]
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Blues Creek Guitars has them. But you can get them at most home depot or lowes , you want a brass threaded insert for a 1/4 - 20 thread
john
PS about $1.98

Author:  Dave Rector [ Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:27 am ]
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I get the brass threaded inserts and bolts at Woodcraft. If I recall correctly it was about $7.00 or so for 10 of each.

Author:  Robbie O'Brien [ Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:17 pm ]
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I get mine at my local luthier supply warehouse....aka lowes

Author:  Mike Mahar [ Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:33 pm ]
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I don't like the brass inserts. Their threads are too small. The zinc ones are slightly tapered, have bigger threads and you drive them in with a hex wrench. I've never had one of the zinc ones strip.

Here's a picture. I get mine at my local hardware store.

Hex nuts

Author:  Robbie O'Brien [ Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:22 am ]
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Here is a pic of the ones I get from the local luthier supply warehouse.


Author:  John Mayes [ Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:34 am ]
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I use the same bolts as robbie, but use threaded inserts I get hem both
from ace hardware.

Author:  Sprockett [ Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:35 am ]
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I use the same ones that Robbie shows, the *only* advice I have is to place those barrel bolts as far back on your tenon as you can to give it a more solid piece of wood to pull into. I deviate slightly from cumpiano and place mine about 1/8" from the face of the cheeks to give them as mucn tenon to pull on as possible.

The reason is the very first guitar I built cracked at the tenon because I didn't give it enough meat to bite into and the wood split under the force.

Cheers

-Paul-

Author:  Colin S [ Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:13 am ]
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I use the same type of barrel bolts as Robbie and a lot of the others, but I reinforce my tenons with a vertical Ash dowel that runs up the tenon and that the barrels bite into against its vertical grain. When I drill the cross holes for the barrels I make them so that the barrel cuts about a third of the way into the back of the dowel. I'd stick a picture up of a neck but I'm afraid I'm 10,000 miles from my guitars. But I do have a Macassar Ebony and a Sonokling Rosewood tree outside the hotel window! My fret board extension also bolts to a head block extension a la Dana.

ColinColin S38518.5106597222

Author:  crazymanmichael [ Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:24 am ]
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put the chain saw back in the tool locker colin!!!!!

question, what is sonokling rosewood? i've not heard of it before. any othe aliases?crazymanmichael38518.5201388889

Author:  Colin S [ Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:15 am ]
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Michael, Sonokling is a more specific name for good old Dalbergia latifolia, East Indian Rosewood. It's no good me getting my chainsaw out, both trees have got notices that say "Reserved for the Kinnaird Brothers"!

Colin

Author:  crazymanmichael [ Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:47 am ]
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he who has the chain saw rules, provided you don't get caught. the locals might take a dim view of your addictive behavior though...

we might get to read of the eccentric anglo getting a number of strokes with the rattan... perhaps better just ot buy it. speaking of which, have you had time to explore the local market?

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